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Archived: Hi-Wheeler, Boneshaker and Safety







AGE / VALUE:   G&J Restoration and Parts posted by: Greg Barron on 7/24/2001 at 11:28:01 AM
I now have two 54" G&J originals and an extra front wheel, aside from pedals I now know what everything on the bike is supposed to look like and how to make it... mostly. I have one bike almost complete and ready to assemble, once the small parts for both bikes come back from the plater I'll assemble one and give it a spin. The other bike is currently out at a pattern maker to have the head, neck, clamps and spade handles copied for cast steel reproduction parts. I intend to have all these parts available soon for those interested as well as I'll be making a much more original replica bike for my line. I don't know how close I'll get it to the original as I intend to use my existing front and rear wheels, front fork ends and bearings and rear fork but it will be substantially different from anything I make now and it will follow the original model closely with regard to geometry, size and assembly and silhouette. I expect that it will be about $2500 or there abouts but still haven't found out what it will cost to have the parts cast so price is pending. If I do an exact reproduction then count on the bike being $3200 plus. I'll leave updates as I get on with the project. If anyone has questions then feel free to email me at my addy.

Greg Barron
RBR Inc


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   G&J Restoration and Parts posted by Bill Katterheinrich on 8/11/2001 at 8:16:02 PM
I currently restoring a 52" G&J 1885 American Challenge, looking for handle bar clamps - pedal cranks. If you have any information that will help me, I would greatly appreciate it.
PS, keep me informed of your progress.

Thanks,

Bill

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   G&J Restoration and Parts posted by Greg on 8/14/2001 at 8:13:43 PM
Bill,
I just got the price for my casting molds for 7 different G&J parts and it ain't cheap. Good thing I was sitting down. I expect to get the casting molds made in the next couple months and will be making the head, neck, right and left clamp, spade grip yoke and possibly the brake lever and mount. I expect a set of bar clamps will be $200 or better. I'm not totally sure but I think the Ideal and the Challange used the same clamps. Cranks I'd have to mill out and make custom but I have 2 diiferent styles of G&J cranks here now to choose from off of the two bikes I bought. Of course I have three hubs with different axle styles so I'd need to see your axle to know what it is. Check back with me and here on the board for updates.
Greg Barron
RBR Inc.






MISC:   Repro tire to fit G&J wooden clincher rims? posted by: Craig on 7/24/2001 at 10:21:49 AM
Hi,
I have an c.1896 Gormully & Jeffrey Rambler and a c.1909 Mead Sentinel, both of which have all-wood G&J clincher rims. Are there any reproduction tires to fit these rims? I know Coker makes a 28"x1.5" glue-on tubular, but I do not think these would fit the G&J rims. The Mead still has original G&J tires, but they are pancaked and completely dried out. I was able to put modern racing tubulars on the Rambler to keep it raised off the floor, but the tires do not fill up the rims properly. I've also tried 700c hybrid tires and 28" English Roadster tires, with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Craig


   RE:MISC:   Repro tire to fit G&J wooden clincher rims? posted by bill on 7/28/2001 at 10:33:49 AM
I have a couple of bikes with the wooden clincher rims that have the canadian or european 28x 1 1/2 tires on them. I think I have seen them listed for sale on the Harris cycle shop website.






AGE / VALUE:   info on Midwest Industries posted by: David on 7/24/2001 at 6:26:46 AM
I was wondering if anyone had any info on the following: a kid's bike (I assume), looks kind of like a tricycle, but with only 2 wheels, pedals on the front wheel. Tire sizes are 12x1-1/2 front and back, the tires have printed on them: Eclat, Akron, OH, ez-turn by welsh. The bike has "Midwest industries, Willard, OH" printed on it. It is a dark pink/red with white rims. My dad bought it in 1962 and said it was old then. Sorry for the long post, any ideas? Thanks in advance,
David







MISC:   RBR Hiwheel restored posted by: Marty Chin on 7/21/2001 at 10:16:12 PM
Just got my RBR Boneshaker restored and back from Greg Barron at Ridable Bicycle Replica's this week. Had the front wheel rebuilt, nickle plating on the rim and hub, new cranks, powder coated frame and I especially like the classic saddle - softest seat on any of 5 bikes I own. Got a set of Greg's new trick 3 hole adjustable crank arms, started a little wobbly until I learn my legs were too short, adjusted to the hole closest to the axle and smooth as silk. Everyone stops and waves, laughs, smiles and has a great time as I ride by. Only obstacle to overcome is those pesky low lying tree branches.

Cheers,

Marty


   RE:MISC:   RBR Hiwheel restored posted by greg on 7/23/2001 at 10:50:28 AM
That is what having a Hiwheel bike of any type is all about! Glad you like it Marty.
Greg






WANTED:   WTB Unusual bike or parts posted by: XHTC@HOTMAIL.COM on 7/21/2001 at 1:36:38 PM
Hi I am wanting to buy an unusual bike in any condition - the stranger the better - also I buy parts and accessories -

What do you have?

rather than post, please email XHTC@HOTMAIL.COM directly thanks







AGE / VALUE:   Need to find the age/value of a boneshaker made in cleveland, ohio posted by: Russ Anderson on 7/18/2001 at 7:10:35 AM
I have a boneshaker made in cleveland, ohio and I need to know if it is a replica or the real McCoy. I have a serial number but I'm not sure how to check it out. Any help would be welcomed. Thanks, Russ A.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need to find the age/value of a boneshaker made in cleveland, ohio posted by Cal on 7/19/2001 at 5:40:09 AM
Send email to Greg Barron. You will find him further down on this page.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need to find the age/value of a boneshaker made in cleveland, ohio posted by Greg Barron on 7/23/2001 at 10:46:49 AM
I don't know for sure until I speak with you but I'd guess that the bike you have is one of mine. Does the serial number start with a 38 or 48? You can call me at 510-769-0980 and I'll let you know what I can. Just so you know, my company spent a year in Cleveland give or take at the start and then my father bought the works and moved them to Oakland, California. Always loathe to waste good stuff, he kept using the original head badges for years by pasting a small and new address sticker over the Cleveland part. Unfortunately the glue failed before long and the stickers fell off leading to confusion for those people looking to find us in Cleveland. Oops. Anyway, give me a call and I'll try to pin down the age of your bike. It'll probably be between "1975" and "85"
Greg

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need to find the age/value of a boneshaker made in cleveland, ohio posted by Russ on 8/6/2001 at 1:31:43 PM
Youre description sounds like mine Serial # 4800505 Is it worth anything? Complete except for damaged seat . It sat in front of my fireplace in the FL. Keys for years now in my garage taking up space. Wife says sell.
Russ

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need to find the age/value of a boneshaker made in cleveland, ohio posted by Greg on 8/14/2001 at 8:23:23 PM
Russ,
Just got back from Key West yesterday, I was there when you sent this! Yours isn't the bike from the roof of the shop in Key Largo is it? Cause if it is then it isn't worth much, that thing pretty much rusted away in the elements! It was up there on the roof for about ten years! If it isn't that bike then it could be worth anywhere from $200 to $700 but I can't say without seeing it or pictures showing it. If you get me some pics and a better description I'll get you a price The good used ones that I've seen seem to be selling rather quickly on the boards and ebay. Let me know.
Greg






AGE / VALUE:   Gormully & Jeffrey ? posted by: Stev on 7/16/2001 at 3:34:58 PM
Saw an antique bike at the flea market in New Milford CT this weekend. I think it was a Gormully & Jeffrey from about 1905-1910 but i didn't really get a good look at it. It's in pretty rough shape, but evrything is there, including the rear tire. The guy selling it was asking $600 for it in the beginning of the day, but was down to $300 by 2 PM. I can't start any new projects right now, so if some body else wants to get it, I think the guy is going to be there again next Sunday.







WANTED:   I want to see many picture Of Raleight that few guys have collected but hepl me please posted by: un on 7/16/2001 at 7:40:01 AM
now I have 5 old Raleigh but i'm new in this bicycle If you have some pic. or can information me That very good for me







FOR SALE:   RBR 48" HiWheel posted by: Marty on 7/2/2001 at 11:24:06 PM
I recently purchased a 48" Rideable Bicycle Replica in good shape. The front and rear wheel are straight with no hops, tires are in excellent shape. The front wheel is in great shape, however, my experience with proper wheel spoke tension is in relation to current road and mountain bikes, I will have Greg at RBR look at this as well. I am in the process of restoring the bike: it came with two different crank lengths, I will install a new set with pedals, there is some very light surface rust on the front wheel, which I will remove and repaint. The rear wheel will get some new spacers and the frame has been sent out for new black powder coating. The handle bar and stem will get re-plated, the stem is the older style forged type (stronger that the current stamped steel, can't get the old ones any more). I am a firm believer in selling things in top condition only, as such, you will be getting this bike in ready to ride condition, with absolutely no work to be done or questions as to it's condition.

Why am I selling this bike? I already have a custom RBR nearing completion (an upgraded older model) and five others in the house, since I can only ride one at a time, I thought some one else might enjoy this one as much as I do.

I haven't set a price yet, I suspect we will know more once all the repair bill come in for the powder coating and plating, but I suspect it will be less than a new one, with one advantage, it will have some of the older style parts which I believe are a little stronger and will serve you better.


   RE:FOR SALE:   RBR 48 posted by JIM DIORIO on 7/24/2001 at 9:11:46 PM
LET ME KNOW HOW MUCH. SEND PHOTES... THANK JIM

   RE:FOR SALE:   RBR 48 posted by Marty Chin on 8/12/2001 at 9:17:25 PM
SOLD and shipping this week to Wisconson - Thanks






MISC:   Kansas City Bicycle Swap Meet posted by: Calvert Guthrie on 6/29/2001 at 8:38:54 PM
KANSAS CITY'S FIRST EVER! (and ain't it about time!?!)
BICYCLE & SCOOTER SWAP MEET
SUNDAY, JULY 29TH, 2001 FROM DAWN until 3PM
The El Torreon (Cowtown) Ballroom
AT THE CORNER OF 31ST & GILLIHAM BOULEVARD
KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI

Easy to find. Aim your wheels for the red broadcasting tower atop Union Hill just south of downtown Kansas City and right up the hill from Crown Center. The tower is on 31st and the SWAP is only 4 blocks to the east.

Bring your bicycle booty, scooter loot, trading stock, schwagg, parts, pieces, odd bits, accessories, excessories, AND your want lists!

10 x 10 spaces will be ready for set up INSIDE the El Torreon facility. There is plenty of space inside but just in case the turnout exceeds our expectations, additional space will be available in the parking lot for the over flow.

The stage of the El Torreon has been reserved for displaying your best originals & restorations. Cash prizes are now being discussed.

A table will be dedicated to handouts for cycling advocacy, rides and other bicycle events. Petitions welcome, too.

The public is also welcome. If you've ever had an interest in bicycles or scooters, this is your best local opportunity to learn from the region's most
experienced restoration artists, mechanics, and cycling history buffs.

This meet is for Wheelmen, Veteran Cyclists, Vintage Racers, Scorchers, Cycletourists, Randonneurs, Retro-Grouches, Balloonatics, Krate Krappers, Mountain bikers, Commuters, Pubcrawlers.

You can expect to see the complete range bicycles and scooters.... Early/Vintage/Classic/Modern/Experimental.

Velocipedes, Boneshakers, Highwheelers, Safeties, Roadsters, Heavy service, Dispatch, Delivery, Military, Balloon, Lightweights, Racing, Audax, Krates & Twenty-Inchers, Recumbents, Cyclecross, Folding, Mountain, Hybrids, Moultons, Scooters, Mopeds, Cyclo-Rickshaws, HPV....Have we left anything out?

And get this.....the setup space is FREE!
One space per swapper
And every space is a great space.
NO CHARGE for Swappers.
NO CHARGE for Shoppers.
First come, first served
on the morning of the meet.
Come early and que up.
This swap meet begins at dawn.

For more information call:
Abe 816/853/8316
Buddy 816/322/6226
John 913/681/0774
Danny 816/942/4681
Steve 816/254/6714
Tom 913/362/3090
Calvert 816/363/4418

If you would like to be added
to the directory of those attending
(and those who think they might),
Send your name, address, phone#, email,
& specific interest to
Cycletruck@aol.com
A MellowVelo Production

Come into town a day early (7/28) for the Saturday night
River Market Cyclery Pub Crawl
7pm til Beer Bonk......
For nightcrawlers who value a good cruise between refreshments.......at about a dozen of Kansas City's most comfortable downtown pubs. Call Billy at the River Market Cyclery 816/842/2453 (315 East 3rd KCMO)
Take in some Kansas City Kultcha.







AGE / VALUE:   Wanted rideable high wheel posted by: Donald on 6/14/2001 at 7:10:18 PM
Hi, I am looking for a rideable replica high wheel bike.48"
front wheel.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Wanted rideable high wheel posted by Greg on 6/14/2001 at 8:23:36 PM
Did I talk to you all ready about getting you a replacement wheel for your bike? If I haven't then you can reach me at the posted e addy or call 510-769-0980 9-6 PST. Hope I can help.

Greg Barron






WANTED:   Need a picture----Please posted by: Rachel on 5/30/2001 at 3:05:34 PM
I am 8 years old. I need a picture for school, a Columbia bicycle made in 1878. Can you help? thanks , Rachel


   RE:WANTED:   Need a picture----Please posted by Greg on 6/4/2001 at 11:44:04 AM
Rachel,
I haven't got any pictures of any originals but I do have pics of replicas on my website you can cut and print. Go to www.hiwheel.com. You can also go to www.wheelmen.org and get pictures of some original bikes there.

Greg Barron
Rideable Bicycle Replicas






MISC:   New Departure Model A Hub posted by: Tom on 5/27/2001 at 3:30:04 AM
Anyone know about the New Derparture Model A hub? I have one on a bike I came across today, that according to the patent dates is a 1894 Hartford. I've a few questions: should the hub allow for coasting? mine doesn't you must use the pegs on the front fork, but it does lock up the back wheel quickly. The brake is on the same side as the sprocket, is this correct? Bike rides like a dream. The rims are straight as an arrow and hubs roll and pedal freely. I have pics if it help. Thank you in advance for any help with this matter.


   RE:MISC:   New Departure "Controller" posted by mike on 5/29/2001 at 4:18:06 PM
It's a New Departure "Controller" and is very unusual and rather rare. Hope this helps.






MISC:   bikes in the 20s posted by: sam on 5/26/2001 at 4:59:40 PM
There doesn't seem to be much info on bikes made in the 1920s.Seems this era was after the safetys and before the balloon era---is there any sites with info or photos of bikes in the 20s?would like to see photos of schwinns of this time if there out there,thinks--sam


   RE:MISC:   bikes in the 20s posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 8/30/2001 at 1:30:28 PM
Im working on this, Sam






MISC:   "Pennypenny" bike - Does this exist? posted by: Joe on 5/25/2001 at 7:31:02 PM
The other day I had an idsea for what is basically a tandem pennyfarthing bicycle. I have posted a crude drawing and description at:

http://members.aol.com/ickyslug/penny.html

Someone has probably come up with this idea already; it would fit in pretty well with a lot of what was being designed back in the 1800's. Has anyone ever seen or built anything like this?

In the unlikely event that mine is an original idea, I hereby release it into the public domain. Build it and rule the bike path.


   RE:MISC:   My own post posted by Joe on 5/27/2001 at 11:59:16 PM
Someone has sent me some info and a photo of a tandem hi-wheeler that looks just like my picture, more or less. Cool!