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Archived: Hi-Wheeler, Boneshaker and Safety





WANTED:   Original Pony Star Hub wanted & Others posted by: John Merk on 5/25/2001 at 8:23:34 AM
Looking for a Main hub for the Pony star! I am also looking for a complete seat with springs and frame. I will also consider a repro. Let me know what parts you have for this bike I might by them all!

Thank You, John


   RE:WANTED:   Original Pony Star Hub wanted & Others posted by Ray on 5/29/2001 at 11:31:19 AM
I am not sure if you are a Wheelman or not but I just had my hi wheeler repaired by Craig Allen of Milleville NJ. He did a fantastic job and I am very pleased with it. He does restorations and makes parts where you cannot find them. I suggest you contact him for what you need. His phone is 856-825-2996.




FOR SALE:   Highwheel bicycle posted by: Jess on 5/19/2001 at 12:40:14 PM
1970's Highwheel replica nice shape ready to ride, great bike for parades! $450


   RE:FOR SALE:   Highwheel bicycle posted by Jess on 5/24/2001 at 8:06:33 PM
High wheel has been sold.
Thank you for everyones intrest!




AGE / VALUE:   Another site to see posted by: Greg on 5/16/2001 at 3:50:16 PM
For those interested, there is a similar site to this one at
http://disc.server.com/Indices/121240.html





WANTED:   SCHWINN GRIPPER SLIK WANTED (S-7) 20 inch posted by: brad on 5/15/2001 at 5:17:07 AM
schwinn gripper slik wanted (S-7{20 inch})
tube not wanted tire wanted send me pic at LEEWEE911oo@aol.com
Thanks brad





WANTED:    posted by: Thomas M. Edfors on 5/11/2001 at 2:43:12 PM
Still (and always) seeking any and all high wheel bikes in any condition. Have a particular need for a 52" Columbia Expert in original and complete condition. Also seeking a good original boneshaker. Safety bikes also considered. Try me first before putting it out for auction. Thank you. Tom


   RE:WANTED:    posted by Greg on 6/14/2001 at 8:26:49 PM
There is a 52" Columbia Expert on Ebay and another on the other discussion site @ http://disc.server.com/Indices/121240.html I hate to get competition in bidding but they need good homes I imagine.

Greg




AGE / VALUE:   w. e. crist - tricyclist racer - 1880's posted by: randy on 5/3/2001 at 4:15:14 PM
have an old tobacco card ( N29 series of World Champions ) published by Allen & Ginter - showing an image of W. E. Crist - Tricyclist (handsome man!)- 50 champions were in the set of cards - some being Crist, William Harradon, cyclist; Ralph Temple, champion trick rider and F. F. Ives 100 mile record winner - all dated 1888/1889. Who was Crist? He was in England for a race in 1888 with Stillman G. Whittaker "Whit" (info from Buck Peacock ). There was a W. E. Crist who graduated with Law degree in 1922 from Ohio Northern University. - he may be a relative of my ancestor, Lucinda Crist ( wife of Samuel Griggs ) who was born in 1851 in Vigo County, Indiana. The resemblance of Crist to her is uncanny. Lucinda was a daughter of George E. Crist and Lucinda Duckworth. Was W. E. Crist a son of one of George's brothers? - William H. Crist or Harvey Crist or Stephanis ( Stephan ) A. Crist or John Calvin Crist or Samuel Eldrich Crist ? thanks - you can also reach me at
randypace@earthlink.net or randy.pace@cityofhouston.com





MISC:   Ames and Frost 1890's safety bike posted by: Kyle on 5/3/2001 at 12:36:39 PM
I also have a post in the restoration tip section: I just recectly found a bike while out hiking, and it seemed pretty old so I hiked it out to the car and brought it home. While doing a search I found a page, http://www.rydjor.com/1896imp.htm, picturing a bicycle very similiar to the one I found except for condition. The bike I have has the same badge as the one pictured in the link except this one is a Model 80. The bike I found is missing the chain and most of the wood from the wheels. The frame is rusty but the metal is sound. It seems to have everything else such as seat, pedals, crank, handle bars etc. I don't know anything about the value of this bike in it's current condition or if it were to be restored. I also don't know much about where to look for more information regarding this bike or other bikes of the same time period other than this great web site. Any info would be greatly appreciated, and please feel free to email me directly. Thank you...


   RE:MISC:   Ames and Frost 1890's safety bike posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 8/30/2001 at 1:33:10 PM
How many people find a old bike, a bike this old while out hiking?




AGE / VALUE:   Swap Meet June 24, Boston, MA posted by: Joe on 4/30/2001 at 6:44:57 PM
Bicycle Swap meet, June 24, 2001. Under the Bridge, Boston, MA. Interstate 93 North or South. Approximately 1 mile North of Downtown Boston, Exit 28 Sullivan Square around the rotary "Under the Bridge" Rain or shine.. This show is free to everyone and vendors.. If you have any questions please email me.

Thank you.





AGE / VALUE:   Can you tell me anything re. this hiwheel? posted by: Max on 4/30/2001 at 2:50:53 PM
I've put up an image file at (its huge): http://www.inwindsor.com/hiwheel/hiwheel.jpg
Can anyone guestimate the age or make of this 50" bike?
Cheers and thanks,


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Can you tell me anything re. this hiwheel? posted by Max on 5/1/2001 at 4:56:28 PM
It has what appears to be "26221" engraved on the right flat of the frame up near the handlebars.

thanks,

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Can you tell me anything re. this hiwheel? posted by Max on 5/1/2001 at 4:57:34 PM
And it appears to be a 49" wheel.

thanks again,

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Can you tell me anything re. this hiwheel? posted by jj on 5/2/2001 at 5:27:13 AM
Greg Barron might know. He checks in here every once in a while.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Can you tell me anything re. this hiwheel? posted by Greg on 5/3/2001 at 4:27:10 PM
Max,
For what it is worth, my bet is an early Columbia. 1884? I looked at one of the old catalog reprints I have and the details matched up pretty well from what I saw. Rear step, rear fork, hub, radial spoking, straight bars, front bearings, brake mount. All these things looked about right from the pics you took but I know the Singer and the W.W.Stall had a similar model at about the same time. Is it a hollow rim or cresent, looks like a cresent but can't tell for sure.
I don't think it is a Rudge, Eagle, St. Nicholas or Victor but can't tell for sure without seeing the bike. I do know that seat ain't right! Someone drilled the spine and bolted that sucker down. Ack! I'd hope the thing didn't rust out inside do to the big hole. It is looking pretty rough and will need a whole lotta work to bring it back. From the chunks missing on the rim it looks like the rust is taking it's toll. Still, it could be a great project bike. Are there any readable stampings anywhere on the frame? They would help in any indentification. Hope this helped and to tell you the truth, value is a very subjective thing. I saw two rideable Columbia originals in davis last year for $2500 each, rusty, couple broken spokes, dead seats and rubber but strong cores and still rideable. Yours could be $300 to $1000 maybe but I can't really even tell you. The Wheelmen would be the best source for pricing as they deal with originals more often. Let me know what you find.
Greg Barron

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Can you tell me anything re. this hiwheel? posted by greg on 5/3/2001 at 4:38:15 PM
I meant U rim, not cresent! oops. And on second thought, early Columbia Standard or American?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Can you tell me anything re. this hiwheel? posted by Max on 5/10/2001 at 9:43:56 PM
If anyone is interested, I've just listed the bike on Ebay.

cheers,

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Can you tell me anything re. this hiwheel? posted by greg on 5/16/2001 at 11:41:58 AM
Max, I looked for the bike on ebay but couldn't find it, I also tried emailing you direct but it came back undeliverable. Contact me, I am interested in finding out more!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Can you tell me anything re. this hiwheel? posted by Max on 5/17/2001 at 7:20:12 PM
Hello Greg,

search for "high wheel bicycle" on Ebay... auction ends in about an hour and a half.

cheers,

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Can you tell me anything re. this hiwheel? posted by Teun on 5/18/2001 at 1:33:37 AM
Your bike is a 1885 / 1887 Columbia Expert. The hammock saddle is probably either an acesoire that was added or a poorly repaired/restored one. The step may not be original either, look into the standard literature for the original version. The handlebar was orginally a cowhorn, which was a luxury version as opposed to the standard 'straight' bar - it is original though!!! Try to restore it in that way. Conclusion: a great bike, bought as a tough bike with a lot of extras from factory.
CONGRATULATIONS!!




MISC:   Solid core tires posted by: Warren on 4/19/2001 at 6:33:22 PM
I'm a vintage lightweight/roadster guy who just found someone who has some solid core tire stock and seaming equipment. Is this what you guys need? I could probably buy it if there was a demand.


   RE:MISC:   Solid core tires posted by Tom on 4/20/2001 at 12:49:25 PM
I'm intersted.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Solid core tires posted by Warren on 4/20/2001 at 10:03:27 PM
I will let the list know if I can procure this setup and maybe have some more details.

   RE:MISC:   Solid core tires posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/28/2001 at 12:06:10 PM
This is also called "Cab Tiring" and it is worth getting especially the "Seaming equipment" The tools that mount it are worth getting especially




MISC:   Great site here posted by: Greg Barron on 4/19/2001 at 1:03:02 PM
I just thought I'd say that this is a really great site here, a really good resource for Hiwheel bikers! Vin, good job and I haven't forgotten the W/F stuff, I just haven't had time to pull it out of the back room and take pictures for you.
Greg





AGE / VALUE:   Bridgestone Highwheeler posted by: Dany Tremblay on 4/15/2001 at 3:07:24 PM
Hi, I own a Bridgestone model DEKO highwheeler. The front wheel is a 26.5" diam. the rear one is 12". I guess it's a replica but I couldn't find any info about it until now. Is there someone who knows the age and the value of this bicycle?





AGE / VALUE:   Swap Meet June 24, Boston, MA posted by: Joe Rapoza on 4/14/2001 at 8:47:15 PM
Summer Bike Show Sunday June 24, 2001. Weekend after Fathers Day Annually.. This show is free to all vendors and the public..

Boston Show Directions: Interstate 93 North or South approximately 1 mile North of Downtown Boston. Take exit 28 Sullivan Square Exit go around the rotary “Under the Bridge”

For more information and show details please contact me.

Thank you, Joe





WANTED:   Hi-Wheeler,Boneshaker Bicycle posted by: Clarence on 4/9/2001 at 8:35:45 PM
I am new to this,I was looking at the hi-wheeler,boneshaker bicycles and they look like they would be great to ride.Not to mention owning a piece of the past.I was wondering how much can I expect to pay for either a replica or one that is in rideable shape.Can they be shipped UPS ,Etc... or are they to big?Any info would be appreciated.


   RE:WANTED:   Hi-Wheeler,Boneshaker Bicycle posted by dave on 4/15/2001 at 12:43:49 PM
I paid $3,200 for my 1888 Columbia Expert. It was restored, and ready to ride. Nickel plated models or rarer models will be more. I rented a small U-haul drove about an hour to pick mine up, and would not trust UPS to ship one. I ride mine all the time (I was just on it an hour ago). I'm 5'11', and a 52" wheel is about perfect. Don't get one too small. Good luck....dave

   RE:RE:WANTED:   Hi-Wheeler,Boneshaker Bicycle posted by clarence on 4/16/2001 at 6:30:22 PM
Dave, Thanks for the reply. How can you tell what is the right size.I am 5'9" with 30" inseam.Would a 48" be too small?

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   Hi-Wheeler,Boneshaker Bicycle posted by dave on 4/17/2001 at 4:36:08 PM
There are some old guides for inseam/tire size out there, can anyone here help? A 48" will almost certainly be too small, and your knees will hit the handlebars. You might try for a 50" wheel. The 52" wheel seems to fit my 33" inseam just about right. You can always ask the seller what size rider will fit the bike he is selling, but I really think you'll be disappointed with a 48". I hope you find one!! they're a little dangerous, but lots of fun!.......dave

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   Hi-Wheeler,Boneshaker Bicycle posted by dave on 4/17/2001 at 5:12:13 PM
I found a wheel guide -- It looks as if I was wrong, and maybe a 48" will work!
48" wheel for 31" leg
50" wheel for 32" leg
52" wheel for 33" leg (i know that's right)
54" wheel for 34" leg
56" wheel for 35" leg
58" wheel for 36" leg
i got this from a "Wheelmen" publication (Bulletin #1) - The Wheelmen is a noble club worth joining.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   Hi-Wheeler,Boneshaker Bicycle posted by Clarence on 4/17/2001 at 6:57:16 PM
Thanks alot Dave.The information is really appreciated.

   RE:WANTED:   Hi-Wheeler,Boneshaker Bicycle posted by Greg Barron on 4/18/2001 at 5:10:31 PM
You had asked about sizes and how they are selected. With my replica bikes I recommend for inseams under 28" my 38" bike, for inseams between 28" to 34" my 48" model bike and for those tall people with inseams 35" and longer my 52" model. Since my replicas use a modern cycle headset, the frame rides higher off the wheel and as such there is a little more room for leg. I can't really speak for the original stuff but what the other gentleman said is probably about right. According to your measurements you would ride my 48" bike. Unfortunately these bikes are to large to be sent by UPS and as such have to go by standard freight carriers like GI, Roadway, Estes and so on. If you are going to get an original shipped then I suggest a plywood crate and interior stuffing! We ship our stuff in a heavy cardboard carton and about 99% of the time there isn't any problem. It is the one percent that kills, that's why I wouldn't think twice about plywood for an original. My 48" bikes start in at $849 plus freight. Right now in the US freight for coast to coast shipping is around $185 for commercial shippers. Non industry might be charged more. Hope this helped and if you want to reach me then email to gbarron@barrongroup.com or hiwheel@barrongroup.com or call 510-769-0980

Greg Barron
Rideable Bicycle Replicas

   RE:WANTED:   Hi-Wheeler,Boneshaker Bicycle posted by Greg Barron on 4/18/2001 at 5:15:14 PM
Oh yah, you can check out my site @www.hiwheel.com

Greg Barron
RBR Inc.

   RE:WANTED:   Hi-Wheeler,Boneshaker Bicycle posted by Bill on 4/18/2001 at 7:19:39 PM
In regards to the wheelman bike sizing chart the leg length is talking about the TOTAL length of your leg, from your crotch down to the sole of your foot, NOT the inseam of your pants. I wear 31" pants inseams but ride a 54" bike. A ridable Replica is a great beginning bike-solid and indestructable, and if you enjoy the sport you can move up to an antique bike later. Check out the Wheelman web site at www.thewheelmen.org




WANTED:   Charles and Sain Info posted by: John on 4/8/2001 at 4:46:54 AM
I am looking for some information on a Charles ansd Sain Special 1898. It is a bike with a big basket on it. Any and all info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.