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Archived: Restoration Tips







RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Taylor Trike Restoration posted by: John on 10/21/2005 at 3:50:35 PM
I have a thirties vintage chain driven trike that I am interested in restoring. The trike has everything with the exception of the front fender and frame badge. The seat pan needs recovering and is missing the seat springs. Any help with resources or contacts would be appreciated. Any other restoration tips would be appreciated also.


   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Taylor Trike Restoration posted by paul viner on 11/21/2005 at 12:12:44 PM
Hi John,i have just completed a restoration on a 60s trike made by a SOUTH AUSTRALIAN company called super elliott.i will try and send some pics.unless you have restored bikes in the past the only advice i can give is DONT THROW ANYTHING OUT,TAKE YOUR TIME IN WHAT YOU DO,SPEND AS MUCH MONEY AS YOUR BUDGET ALLOWS depending obviously on the rarity of your machine AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO ALTER THE ORIGINALITY OF THE BIKE TRY AND USE PERIOD BITS.From what i know about mine it seems to be fairly rare.Would you believe i have on of their tandems as well,next project.also take as many digital pics at every stage of restoration,helps when you put it back together,send some if you can.only to happy to give advice and guidance if needed. paul viner






RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Decals posted by: David on 10/17/2005 at 7:52:37 PM
Where can I find decals, New or repo for Schwinn Typhoon or New world bikes


   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Decals posted by rod on 10/31/2005 at 4:16:58 PM
Try either Memory Lane Classics (www.memorylane-classics.com), or Maple Island Sales (www.mapleislandsales.com). Good luck!

   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Decals posted by john Metz on 11/29/2005 at 2:11:57 PM
Try ebay-type in Schwinn bicycles. I've seen lots of decals on ebay. Good luck!






RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   New email newsgroup dedicated to Vintage Bicycle Restorations posted by: Peter Naiman on 9/25/2005 at 3:04:13 PM
This is a personal invite to anyone interested in bicycle restorations from myself to those who may want to join a new growing list that is dedicated cycle restorations. There are no hard fast governing rules to adhere to,
and it seems like a very congenial group. So far there are about 380 members and when I joined a few months ago there might have only 30-40, so it is growing quickly. To join, click on the URL
listed below.

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bicycle_Restoration

I just joined the Wheelmen after lurking from the outside for years and have found most lists are dedicated the either Antiques, Lightweight Racer, Balloon Tyre, or Touring bikes etc, but no group deals with all areas of interest. I'd like too see a list in which all cycle groups come together and share information. It doesn't matter what era a cycle is from, we can all share our knowledge and interest.

P.S. to all, this is a personal disclaimer. This is not an attempt by me to steal away folks from the Bob, CR Lists or other lists as I'm a member of both and plan on staying active with both. It's just nice to have another public forum with which to air information without restrictions.

Best regards,
Peter Naiman
Glendale, WI







RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   64 schwinn , 26" posted by: brian on 9/14/2005 at 4:14:27 AM
i have a 64 girls schwinn. broke it down, cleaned it up, and now i am reassembling and have hit two snags.
1) i had to replace the crank and now the crankset wont fit. i thought schwinns were universal for parts except the wheel sizes. do i have to replace it all? i want to keep as much original as possibe and the crankset is in great shape.

2) the headset is bizarre. dont know if it was tinkered with over the years, but there is no top head race. looks like the frame is grooved to be the race. and when i put everything in place there is a large gap between the pieces so nothing is snug and i have a lot of wobble in the fork? i know i didnt lose any parts. is this a design shwinn used or do i have to get a headset too?

appreciate any help


   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   64 schwinn , 26 posted by Joe on 9/23/2005 at 4:22:42 AM
As far as I know, all Schwinns back then used a Schwinn spec Ashtabula crank, different threading, and posibly width?

Schwinn used two common headsets, the standard upper and lower cup style, and the Deluxe headset, which looked more like a British or European headset, the top bearing race was inverted, the top cup screwed down over the race which was pressed into the frame. Both types look very different from the other when installed. All Schwinn threads are usually 26 threads per inch.

   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   64 schwinn , 26 posted by David on 9/23/2005 at 11:52:47 AM
Schwinn used 26 tpi, most of the others of that vintage, like Huffy used 24 tpi. You may have gotten a Wald replacement set of bottom bracket bearings which was 24 tpi. It happens. Look for Schwinn only bb sets from one of the stingray websites and you will be ok. Memory Lane is one: http://www.memorylane-classics.com/ Maple Island is another.






RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Paint gun help posted by: marc on 9/7/2005 at 12:15:15 AM
Anybody out there have any recommendations for paint guns to paint
bikes? Is a detail gun better than a regular HVLP gravity gun with a
1.3
or 1.5 MM nozzle? I will be using PPG Enamels to correctly simulate pre
war paint jobs. Thanks for any input. Marc


   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT: Paint gun help posted by Larry Wlos on 1/3/2006 at 3:07:48 PM
Get yourself a HVLP detail gun if your going to do bikes,I use a Sata but it is expensive,different nozzle sizes are available 1.0 works good for color and clear on bikes






RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   1964 murray jet fire headlights posted by: Garet on 9/2/2005 at 10:01:18 PM
I have a 1964 murray jet fire and I need batteries for the headlight. I figured out how to open the tank, but I'm not sure what batteries to use. If you know, please help me out, thank you.


   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   1964 murray jet fire headlights posted by John Metz on 9/2/2005 at 11:10:47 PM
To the best of my knowledge size D flashlight batteries
are what you need.

   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   1964 murray jet fire headlights posted by chris f on 10/21/2005 at 1:52:22 PM
hey, i just got an old murray jetfire, i opened the tank and found 2 very old, what seemed to be D cell batteries, i havent really tried it out yet im in the process of restoring and and just took the whole thing apart.

   RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   1964 murray jet fire headlights posted by Garet on 11/12/2005 at 2:43:37 AM
Hey I have a murray jetfire, and it took me a while to figure out how to open the tank. But once i did, i just put in two D batteries and now i have a working headlight. If it doesn't work right away, check the bulbs and make sure the wires are connected. If it still doesn't work brush off any rust that there might be in the metal parts of the circuit. Email me if you have any questions.

   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   1964 murray jet fire headlights posted by Dave Martin on 11/26/2005 at 1:24:17 AM
I may be buying an old Murray Cruiser Jet Fire X-65 from a local individual. He's asking $100. He says the headlight does work, and has all original parts--including tires. How difficult is it to get new tires, if needed? Is it easy to add some form of cargo carrier to this bike?

Thanks!

Dave

   RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   1964 murray jet fire headlights posted by Mike Capizzi on 1/24/2006 at 9:58:15 PM
I got an old murray jet fire bicycle and the body is in great condition except for the plastic light part that connects to the tank. Do you know where I could find or buy a new piece so i can restore the whole bike. I am not sure what year it is. But it is a mens cruiser and the stock colors were; Frame: Black, Tank: Dark (deep) Red with cream white, Fenders: Chrome. Thanks for your help.

   RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   1964 murray jet fire headlights posted by Travis on 3/9/2006 at 3:05:54 AM
my dad needs 2 rims and a head light cover for a murry jetfire.If you know where to get 1 email me or something.

   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   1964 murray jet fire headlights posted by jerry on 7/30/2006 at 9:00:33 PM
i have a 1964 murray jetfire x girls bike.i want to sell it.everything is original headlights work.e mail me 4 photos or questions






RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   Hub Repair-Firestone Pilot posted by: D. Warner on 8/24/2005 at 3:28:32 AM
How do I repair/replace a nonfunctioning rear hub for a circa 1940 Firestone Pilot, ladies bike, skip-tooth? Also, what is this bike worth as resale?


   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS: Hub Repair-Firestone Pilot posted by The Wrench on 9/30/2005 at 1:04:55 PM
Open it up, find the non-functioning part, replact it, reassemble.

   Firestone Pilot posted by Stewart Cummings on 1/13/2006 at 7:34:22 PM
I have a Firestone Pilot bicycle and unfortunately, I have to part with it. I am moving back to Canada and this bike is too heavy to ship. It's in great shape and I have all the original parts. Obviously the paint is not in perfect shape, but mechanically it is sound. How much should I sell it for?

Thanks for you time.


Stewart






RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   enamled Westwood rims posted by: Andy on 8/23/2005 at 10:31:21 PM
Hello i have an 1about 1930 Rudge-Whitworth Coventry 3-speed, and my biggest problems are the rims. The front rim was enamled in black it was the older one; the rear rim was chromed but in spite of this painted in black. Were painted or only black rim usual? And how i should paint/colour my rims without running down between the firts brake-action? (please excuse my bad english)
Or where i can buy black rims?
Many Thanks
Yours sincerely
Andy


   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   enamled Westwood rims posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/27/2005 at 8:18:05 PM
Black rims ... and other black items that were normally chrome were due to a scarcity of available chromium during World War II and quite the norm for that vintage machine.

Probably the rear rim was at one time replaced and painted over to match the balance of the machine.

Nice find!

Cheers

Larry "Boneman" Bone






RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   schwinn locking fork posted by: joe c on 8/17/2005 at 3:16:36 PM
can someone tell me how to remove the handle bar shaft from the locking fork on a 1950 phantom?


   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   schwinn locking fork posted by dave on 8/17/2005 at 3:46:51 PM
yes






RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Scratches posted by: Marie-Pierre on 8/16/2005 at 3:32:19 PM
Hi, I'va just bought a Bike from some old man on my street. I think its a 76' Rapido. The mechanics in very good shape and there is no rust on it, except through the scratches.T he kid who owned it must of had fallen a couple of time cus the paint is all scratched... He even put stickers over the worst parts... Even the chrome on the handle bars is scratched trough! I would really apreciate some tip on how to get the bike to look better. Thank for any help you can give!







RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Looking for restorer for Harvard Deluxe posted by: Tim on 8/16/2005 at 12:58:23 PM
I've been contacted by the daughter of the owner of a Harvard Deluxe, possibly from the 20's or 30's, who's looking for a complete restoration of the bike. Here's what she's sent me so far:
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I'm looking for a complete restoration. It is unlikely my mother would ever be able to ride the bike again, but it has great sentimental value to her. So I'd like to restore it to "show room" shape.

The bike was given to my mother when she was a child. She is now 70. She told me it belonged to her aunt....so I doubt it was brand new.

One detail I thought was kind of cool was the back fender has little holes all along the edge. My mom explains that these were for a "dress guard" so that girls could ride their bikes without catching their skirts in the spokes.

Photos here:
http://www.bikes.msu.edu/photo_gallery/harvard/

If you're interested in possibly restoring this bike, or have information about Harvard's, please contact Lisa @ hike14ersATcomcast.net (pls. replace "AT" w/ the @ symbol).

**Passing this along as a service by the MSU Bike Project**
http://www.bikes.msu.edu


   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC: Looking for restorer for Harvard Deluxe posted by Larry Wlos on 1/3/2006 at 3:12:49 PM
Is the bike complete?I can restore bikes to show quality.






RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Removing a bad paint job posted by: Cathy Y. on 8/16/2005 at 2:51:58 AM
Hi! I just purchased a surrey, or quadricycle, at a flea market. It seats two, side by side, both riders have peddles, either can steer it with a tiller steer. It is supposed to be from the 1930's, but I'm not sure yet, still researching it, with little luck. Anyways, someone painted it, red over the original bright, shiny green underneath. The red paint peels off in big sheets in some places, but in other places it is more stubborn. There are also some very rusty places where no paint remains. Is there a quick and dirty way of removing the top coat of paint, without bothering the original green underneath? I would like to see how much of the green is left, before doing anything drastic. I couldn't find anything in the archives. Thanks for any direction with this. Also, this bike came from Katharine Hepburn's estate, so I want to do the right thing by it, whatever that is! I have other questions, but I'll start with the paint. Thanks again! Cathy Y.


   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Removing a bad paint job posted by Joe on 12/22/2005 at 8:10:24 AM
I had good luck getting spray paint off of an old Schwinn with a product called Goof-Off, they sell it in WalMArt, Kmart, and the likes, it's pretty strong so do a test area that you can't see. It didn't touch the original Schwinn paint, but wiped the cheap spray job right off. I soaked a rag and rubbed off the unwanted paint. Be very carefull around decals. Depending on what type of paint the original paint is, you could try EZ Off oven cleaner, but that's a bit more risky, again, test an area that doesn't matter or show. Goof-Off will even remove latex paint.






RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   picking replacement parts posted by: Erik Hanson on 8/10/2005 at 5:37:52 PM
I have a 1978 Fuji S12S which I love dearly- I've had it since new and have put 10s of thousands of miles on it. The time has come to replace some worn components and I find that there is a lot of reasonably priced stuff NOS vintage component parts on the net. But i have no idea what was or is good in terms of parts by manufacturer. The original component set was Suntour but I'm not wedded to replacing the parts with the same manufacturer. Is there anywhere on the web I can find out about the various makes and models of vintage components? I couldn't tell the difference between Suntour's CX-3000 and their Edge 4050 if my life depended on it. Any help would be appreciated.

Erik


   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   picking replacement parts posted by Joe M on 9/23/2005 at 4:14:01 AM
If it were mine, I would probably try to stay as original as posible, and if not, try to at least stay time period correct.
In 1978 or at least in that basic era Suntour's top derailleur was the Suntour Cyclone, followed by the VX GT, and then the VX series. The better component's then as well as now, offered less weight, and only sometimes better performance. Suntour Cyclone was one of the best derailleurs ever made, it was lightweight, worked well, and pretty affordable.
The Edge series I believe, was used mostly on mountain bikes, and I am not familiar with the CX-3000 all that much , but I do believe it was for index shifting. Both are a bit newer than your bike.
If cost is no object, and you want to upgrade to the cream of the crop from that time, you could go to either the Shimano Dura-Ace line, or Campagnola Record.
I have several bikes that came with and still use the Suntour Cyclone gear changers, and wouldn't change them for nothing. Also keep in mind that many of the newer derailleurs are meant for index shifting, not friction shift. In other words, you will need to upgrade the entire system, as well as posibly your sprockets and freewheel.
Also, remember that as far as value goes, a bike is only original once, a general rule of thumb to restoring an old bike is to clean, polish, and get as much of the original equipment back into shape as you can.

   RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   picking replacement parts posted by scott baxter on 11/21/2005 at 1:33:34 AM
I bought a NOS Suntour VX GT rear der, and come to find out that a special tool is needed to replace one of the pulleys, a kingsbridge lock nut tool I read. Where can I purchase such a tool, or should I just hunker down with my dremel and fabricate?

   RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   picking replacement parts posted by Joe on 12/22/2005 at 8:04:51 AM
Try an older bike shop, they may still have those, but if not, go to the local auto parts store and by a piece of brake tubing that matches the diameter, put a 90 degree band in it, and go to work with that Dremel.

   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   picking replacement parts posted by D. Demerest on 2/25/2006 at 2:29:44 AM
I would like to restore an early 80's Fuji Royale 12 speed.Can I possibly get replacement decals for it?
Thank you






RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   KRATELOAD posted by: ROD on 8/1/2005 at 5:30:05 PM
Does anyone know how to restore pre-'67 Schwinn non-reflected crate pedals without damaging them? I have a pair of '63's(Corvette) & '64's(Starlet III). Thanx!


   RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   KRATELOAD posted by cam on 1/28/2006 at 7:11:27 PM
first you have to wash them with asid tone than take a tooth brush and skerap them if that doesent work than use steel wool






RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   KRATELOAD posted by: ROD on 8/1/2005 at 5:30:05 PM
Does anyone know how to restore pre-'67 Schwinn non-reflected crate pedals without damaging them? I have a pair of '63's(Corvette) & '64's(Starlet III). Thanx!